Don Lemon wholeheartedly believes he'd make a great presidential candidate and could outperform President Donald Trump. 

Lemon, 60, said he doesn't have any 'aspiration to become president,' but he does think he could 'run this country a lot better than Donald Trump,' he said on Pod Save America. 

'I think I could be president of the United States,' he said. 'I know people are going to think I'm crazy. This is going to be the headline, and people are going to laugh about it.' 

Lemon described himself as an Independent, but said he would more than likely run on a Democrat ticket in the hypothetical race. 

'Look, why can't I think about running for office? Why can't I think about being president of the United States when look at what we have,' he questioned.  

The former CNN anchor said no one believed former President Barack Obama would take the White House in 2008. 

'Anybody ever think that he would become president, that he had that aspiration?' Lemon said. Unlike Lemon, Obama had a successful career as a US senator before ascending to the most powerful office in the world. 

The journalist also thought he'd be a great candidate to whip a news organization into shape, as he's been on the inside of it before. 

'I'm busy, I'm building my own channel, and I'm building my own network, and we'll see where that goes, but if they dropped me into a news organization, I could fix it up. I could clean up the place. 

'Don Lemon is ready to conquer the world.' 

Lemon has been building his own world since 2023, when he was fired from CNN for making controversial comments about women in their 40s being past their prime. 

Since then, Lemon has found himself in legal trouble after his arrest for joining the anti-ICE storming of a Minnesota church in January whose pastor works for Immigration and Customs Enforcement. 

Lemon was released without bail following his first appearance in court in Los Angeles after his arrest.

The ongoing case has become a flashpoint in debates about the First Amendment.

At a charity event, Lemon defended the First Amendment, stating: 'I'm here just because this is really important, and I believe in freedom of expression. I believe in the First Amendment, freedom of the press, all of those things.

'I think it's important for you guys to support that, and especially to support - in this day and age - independent journalism in the media.' 

The target of the protest was Pastor David Easterwood, and demonstrators said they weren't protesting his faith, but the fact that he reportedly also works as a US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent.

Lemon has defended himself and said he was only at the protest to cover it as a journalist. 

Georgia Fort, an independent journalist, was similarly hit with federal charges, but she has also said she was at the protest to report on it.